a new AVP and a new Rambo?

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  • #32729
    muddy
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    Spectacular, I cannot wait!

    Now I gotta watch all the Rambos again… which is not a bad thing.

    #54638
    Lt. Tyler
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    My vote goes for First Blood.

    Nothing like seeing a young David Caruso running into a booby trap of sharpened sticks right in the legs.

    And Col. Trautmann’s description of Rambo, “…trained to eat things that’d make a billy goat puke…”

    #54639
    muddy
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    I was pretty busy at work… noticed the new Batman movie, the new Indiana Jones movie, the new jurassic park hype, Magneto and Wolverine discussions…

    Yeah.. busy.

    #54640
    BoostNJuice
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    Are they remaking everything? Someone should remake Masters of the Universe, not that Dolph wasn’t compelling as He-Man, but with a non-“XX comes to earth” story.

    #54641
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    anyone seen the new AVP yet? Not as silly as the last one, at least I think it wasn’t. However, it had some flaws. I love watching pitch black screens with the camera shaking when the Pred-alien and the Predator are fighting. At least stupidity was rewarded justly.

    – mule

    #54642
    muddy
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    GAH!

    I FERGOT!

    #54643
    Corgano
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    #54644
    Brak
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    @mule wrote:

    anyone seen the new AVP yet? Not as silly as the last one, at least I think it wasn’t. However, it had some flaws. I love watching pitch black screens with the camera shaking when the Pred-alien and the Predator are fighting. At least stupidity was rewarded justly.

    – mule

    Had to catch” I am Legend” first. I’m sure BTP will gleefully drag me to AvPR soon.

    As a massive fan of Matheson’s book, still digesting the movie . They got the tone right if not the exact execution. Missed at least one of the major points of the book but all in all, it comes recommended ( as does the book for all you heathens that missed it). Smith surprised me with how good he was in the movie.

    #54645
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    how was “I am Legend”?

    #54646
    mule
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    Psst muddy he just said. Yeah i’ve been meaning to catch “I am Legend”… I’ve still gotta read the book too. I’ll just have to break down and go see it alone I suppose.

    – mule

    #54647
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    Did you ever read the book ?

    If so, expect some slight dissapointment as they messed up 2 fairly major things.

    If not ( and if you can let go of the details), it’s a good flick. Far Far Far better than Omega man or Last man on earth ( the other 2 films also based on the book).

    I’d recommend it as it did get the tone right and Smith was very convincing as Robert Neville.

    Most of my issues simply come from being a huge fan of the book ( to the point I re-read it every few years). I stress, however, that I was able to get past that and enjoy the movie quite a bit.

    Slight spoilers. Highlight to read easier

    My 2 biggest issues

    1) The inclusion of other survivors in the middle of the movie and the religious angle that had zero to do with the book and everything to do with the” friendly rewrite ” that the execs wanted.

    2)” Just as vampires were regarded as legendary monsters that preyed on the vulnerable humans in their beds, Neville has become a mythical figure that kills both vampires and the infected living while they are sleeping. He becomes a legend as the vampires once were, hence the title “I am Legend”.”

    That was not touched on at all and it’s what made the book so cool and way ahead of it’s time.

    2a) The monsters were very 28 days later/the mummy..bad use of CGI

    Go see it, the shots of NY are fairly amazing and Smith carries things very well. I half love/Half hate the movie but I will be watching it again.

    Edit-Mule go read the book, old does not mean crappy in this case. If you dig Gaiman, you find value in reading this.There is just a certain awesome vibe through the whole book that creeps up on you.

    #54648
    mule
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    yep, been planning on reading the book. Just waiting until I see the movie first, that way i’m not as dissapointed with the movie.

    – mule

    #54649
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    @muddy wrote:

    how was “I am Legend”?

    I thought it was lame…and I am a big movie goer..

    Might be worth buying a pirated version for a dollar but definitely not worth the theater time.

    my girlfriend and I gave it two thumbs down.

    #54650
    muddy
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    @domf wrote:

    my girlfriend and I gave it two thumbs down.

    Where were your other two thumbs?

    #54651
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    #54652
    s-m-r
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    @Some Journalist Guy wrote:

    Stallone says he was surprised that the Motion Picture Association of America gave the film an R rating: “When babies are being bayonetted and people are being flamed, I thought this will never go.” But he told the ratings board, “I said guys, this is happening today — and if we’re ever going to do something that responds, where art has the ability to influence people’s awareness and impact the lives of these people, don’t dilute it, don’t water it down. . . . Don’t cut away too soon. Let it sink it. I want people to feel it. To their credit, they allowed this film to be as truthful as it could.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/23/AR2008012304118_Comments.html

    If Stallone (via “Rambo”) is ever portrayed as a human rights activist, then I really will hang up my hat for good…

    #54653
    Brak
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    He addressed some of that over in the AICN questionaire.

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35378

    In response to questions about Burma and the level of violence in general.

    4.) I believe this Rambo is by far the most responsible action film I’ve ever done since “First Blood”. The content is mature and the word “violence” is being used in the wrong context. It’s a film about survival of a peaceful persecuted group of people in Burma. It’s about clashing ideals of missionaries who believe God can make all persecution go away through love and the counter force of confronting evil with bravery and a force of righteousness that people can rise up and slay tyrants if they’re willing to put their life on the line. I love this film and I believe if people go to the theatre they’ll be pleasantly surprised by it’s many layers.

    “9.) I thought if this were to be the last Rambo I would hope it would serve two masters. The first, would be to provide escapism in the form of an adventure film. The second, which is by far the most important, is shedding light on a horrible depraved situation where murder, torture, rape and mutilation are an every day occurrence. If there was ever hell on earth, it would be called Burma. So depicting the atrocities, which are historically accurate in the film in the way the Burmese are systematically butchering a peaceful group of peasants called the Karen would provide a window into that part of the world for the uninformed. The Burmese military spends billions of dollars every year in Washington D.C. hiring publicity firms to completely distort the ongoing genocide, so this is the only way I can assist them and it’s a privilege to do so.”

    I don’t think he’s trying to be an activist, more like what Bruce Willis did with Tears of the Sun and maybe show people something they are not aware of. He’s working with the medium he’s got and it seems to be something actors want to do as they get older. I wont laud praise on him because , as he’ll acknowledge, it’s just an action flick with a massive amount of violence but it as least is more responsible than some dude rolling around in grease shirtless before smacking 10 dudes around then sleeping with the token hot chick ( not that there is anything wrong with that….except for maybe the grease).

    Stallone is a much much different type of person than he used to be, the questionaire for Rambo and especially Rocky Balboa made me see him a lot differently, he was pretty candid about his failures. It’s worth digging through the AICN site to see his answers

    #54654
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    Pretty sure I don’t care what he says it is or isn’t about. He did the last Rocky movie and since it did pretty well he probably decided to do a last Rambo movie, end of story.

    Whatever the real reason is I’m pretty sure that it’s a perfect storm.

    Wife works 3-11 pm.
    No chores left for me that won’t be done within the hour.
    Winter time so I have my “stick it up the movie places snack bars butt” coat with multi internal pockets.

    It’s like the planets aligned for me on this one and I can’t wait.

    #54655
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    Loved it.

    Even Iathouz liked it and he was pre-disposed to hate anything by Stallone.

    Note: Dont be like the idiot who brought his kids to this movie, it’s unflinchingly brutal. Those kids are prolly scarred for life.

    Vlan will appreciate the proper use and deployment of the Barret Sniper Rifle and its aftermath.

    #54656
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    @Brak wrote:

    Even Iathouz liked it and he was pre-disposed to hate anything by Stallone.

    Oh come on, Demolition Man and Tango & Cash were GREAT movies.

    @Brak wrote:

    Note: Dont be like the idiot who brought his kids to this movie, it’s unflinchingly brutal. Those kids are prolly scarred for life.

    Must’ve been the same idiot who brought his kids to Saving Private Ryan over here by me. I wanted to friggin choke that guy.

    @Brak wrote:

    Vlan will appreciate the proper use and deployment of the Barret Sniper Rifle and its aftermath.

    Splatter marks and red mist?

    #54657
    Monty
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    Properly used, a sniper can make up for a multitude of sins…

    😉

    M3C

    #54658
    Thrym
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    @Brak wrote:

    Note: Dont be like the idiot who brought his kids to this movie, it’s unflinchingly brutal. Those kids are prolly scarred for life.

    On top of bringing his pre-teenage kids to a very very brutal movie he sat there and explained what was happening to them in a normal voice.

    Just proves there are people in this world who shouldn’t be allowed to breed or raise kids.

    #54659
    mule
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    He uses a Barret in the film? oh now I want to see it.

    On bringing kids to the film. The worst I ever saw was a mother who brought her 3 kids to 8 millimeter. I kid you not, a movie about snuff porn. The eldest was the daughter she looked about 11 the youngest looked maybe 5.

    – mule

    #54660
    Brak
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    Some other guy uses the Barret. Don’t want to spoil it but its not JUST Rambo going in and killing everyone…was a twist I did not expect but liked quite a bit.

    Splatter marks and red mist would imply there was something left and it’s the first movie that captured the ear-shattering crack of a Barret. It’s like the Angry Hammer of God …heard even over the 50 Cal Jeep mount and Ak’s on full auto.

    The woman just covering her ears and crying as it went off beside her was a nice touch.

    What Rambo does with the 50 Cal in the jeep was just beautiful if , perhaps a bit much…but then again its a cheap 3rd world swivel mount and he IS Rambo.One of the best uses of blood packs this side of Evil Dead.

    Biggest surprise was Stallone can now bring depth to his characters, putting a lot of himself in the role..like with Rocky Balboa. I wasn’t entirely sure he could what he did with Rocky with the Rambo character but was pleased with how it turned out.

    #54661
    Valgrimm
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    The monsters were very 28 days later/the mummy..bad use of CGI

    Agreed, as big a budget as the movie had, you would think they could get some good CGI monsters…..nothing beats a tom savini zombie!

    #54662
    muddy
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    I agree with everything Brak said about Rambo.

    It has been a long long LONG time since I sat in a movie covering my mouth with my hand because of the brutality and gore.

    The attention to detail in this movie was right out of a horror movie.

    I actually looked away when Rambo kills the very last guy in the movie… but I was chuckling a little as well.

    I thought of quotes from two other movies at that point.

    ” I’ll take pleasure in guttin you, boy “

    and

    ” Maybe you aughtta have him check his knife too Wyatt, I heard he cut that drifter from his belly to his richard “

    Go see it, but don’t take your kids. Unfortunately there was a guy at our theater with his kids as well. Moron.

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